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PostSubject: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 2:38 pm

I don't think I've missed any Stooges/Iggy biographies, but just in case... out of interest what are your ratings of the best/worst, and are there any rare ones some of us may have overlooked? I like the Trynka book; Ambrose's is not bad; Callwood's is interesting because it's a true Stooges book, but it could have been a lot more informative. The only book I know of that I don't have and haven't even seen is the Mick Rock photo book - is it a book you go back to often enough to warrant buying it?
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 4:53 pm

While Paul Trynka's book is the best biog I find myself referring to Richard Adams' The Complete Iggy Pop more often for stuff about the recordings.
Also recommended are Per Nilsen's book Wild One and the one Iggy did, I Need More, is required reading.
Alvin Gibbs book Neighbourhood Threat is a pretty good read.
I personally wouldn't rate the Ambrose book.
I like the Mick Rock book but once you've seen all the photos you probably won't be constantly re-reading it. Some folks might disagree.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 6:41 pm

Rob Gallucci wrote:
I like the Trynka book; Ambrose's is not bad; Callwood's is interesting because it's a true Stooges book, but it could have been a lot more informative.

Agree with all this. I was disappointed with the Callwood, it had the potential to be so much better than it was, it needed to be CONSIDERABLY more in-depth. I liked the overall approach though.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 9:17 pm

Plagiarism aside, the Ambrose book is hilarious. 'Cream is the worst band in history'. 'Zombie Birdhouse ranks with Funhouse'. At least one laugh-out-loud bonehead editorial comment per page.

I doubt Trynka's book will ever be bested. Especially now that Ron - the defacto band historian - is gone.

Really looking forward to Robert Matheu's photo-book, though. He's evidently dug up a lot of cool, unseen pics.

Not a Stooges bio per se, but 'Please Kill Me' is a must-read.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 11:50 pm

Donald wrote:
the one Iggy did, I Need More, is required reading.

I've never even seen it Donald, but I will try to find a copy. Thanks for the tip.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 2:48 am

Rob Gallucci wrote:
Donald wrote:
the one Iggy did, I Need More, is required reading.

I've never even seen it Donald, but I will try to find a copy. Thanks for the tip.

I've never seen it either! Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 9:56 am

heavy liquid wrote:
Rob Gallucci wrote:
Donald wrote:
the one Iggy did, I Need More, is required reading.

I've never even seen it Donald, but I will try to find a copy. Thanks for the tip.

I've never seen it either! Mad

Neither have I.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 1:35 pm

It seems to be out of print at the moment.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h__0_11?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=i+need+more+iggy+pop&sprefix=i+need+more

If you get the chance to buy the 1982 edition that's the one to get.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 2:01 pm

yep it's out of print already a couple years.
used not that hard to get though.
I got mine a year ago from Marktplaats.nl for a good price > € 15,-

But i can't find the edition year. Donald where can i find that?
On the second page is standing; Los Angeles, CA 90078
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 2:13 pm

I got it from the Amazon link. The 1982 one has a different cover and isn't published by 2.13.61. Does that help Zin?
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 2:19 pm

Donald wrote:
I got it from the Amazon link. The 1982 one has a different cover and isn't published by 2.13.61. Does that help Zin?
yep.. that does help, thanks Donald!
cuz mine IS published by 2.13.61 Sad
anyway.. i'm fond of it.. great book!!
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 3:24 pm

Zin, the 1982 'I NEED MORE'

KARZ-COHL PUBLISHING,INC.
320 West 105th Street
New York, N.Y. 10025


ML420.P83A3 1982 784.5'4'00924 [B] 82-17979
ISBN 0-943828-50-3
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeWed Mar 11, 2009 11:36 pm

You can get a pre-owned copy on Amazon and ebay, but it's not cheap!!
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 12:18 am

I've heard very bad things about "Gimme Danger", anybody care to say why?
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 9:11 am

The original Karz-Cohl 1982 edition of I Need More is the one to get if you can, because it has a huge number of truly excellent photos. A fascinating book, though don't believe everything Iggy says in it!
Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 2:10 pm

G, F#, E wrote:
I've heard very bad things about "Gimme Danger", anybody care to say why?

The author just appears to have it in for Iggy. He is clearly not a fan but he doesn't even seem to appreciate the truly great records Iggy has released. Also, the book is redundant now Paul T has brought his one out.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 2:14 pm

adams66 wrote:
The original Karz-Cohl 1982 edition of I Need More is the one to get if you can, because it has a huge number of truly excellent photos. A fascinating book, though don't believe everything Iggy says in it!
Cheers,
Richard


does it have more photos than the recent reprint ones, cause i have one of those


yeh gimme danger was terrible, and lke Donald says, redundant now tht OU&B is out
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 3:01 pm

I had a good laugh with some stories in Gimme Danger.
From page 1 it was obvious the writer had a love/hate.. or whatever.. relation to Iggy.
it's written by a poser. to me > an entertaining + annoying 'extra' read.
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 3:38 pm

homesickjameswilliamson wrote:
does it have more photos than the recent reprint ones, cause i have one of those

It does have more photos, that's why it's the one to get if you don't already have the book at all. If you've already got it then the extra photos have probably been scanned and put on the web anyway Wink

By the way, the second printing of Wild One is the one to get due to the expanded appendices.


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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 3:39 pm

thanks donald, ill just stick with the one i have

its a good read, funny lol
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 7:04 pm

Donald wrote:
G, F#, E wrote:
I've heard very bad things about "Gimme Danger", anybody care to say why?

The author just appears to have it in for Iggy. He is clearly not a fan but he doesn't even seem to appreciate the truly great records Iggy has released. Also, the book is redundant now Paul T has brought his one out.

Ambrose didn't clearly acknowledge his sources, as I remember. It was the first Iggy/stooges book I ever read, I thought it ok at the time
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 7:13 pm

you started with the wrong one Nadja > that's a pity
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 10:16 pm

it was the first iggy pop i read too, didnt like it much, or pay much attention

its decent i guess, but OU&B is amazing, and i need mores a nice addition, its quite funny and wild ones a great book

have only seen richard's book in the library, but it was pretty good too, must get it some day
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PostSubject: Re: Biographies   Biographies Icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 10:42 pm

Nadja wrote:

Ambrose didn't clearly acknowledge his sources, as I remember. It was the first Iggy/stooges book I ever read, I thought it ok at the time

the same. i remember going on a vacation to see the family in connecticut. luckily a stop at barnes & nobles plus a cd shop kept me busy with that book, the self titled stooges album, and fun house.

my love for the band just instantly kicked into high gear after that. i still have yet to finish open up. i bought it during my stooges vacation in april, read some on a plane delay in the airport and didn't pick it up since. it is not because the book doesn't interest me, i just never got back to it. will do though. from what i read i know i was enjoying it more than 'gimme danger'.
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