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Billi Boi



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PostSubject: Japanese Funhouse   Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:35 am

Howdy!

Long time Stooges fan and reader of the forum. Pleased to meet you.

Anyone heard the Japanese Funhouse?

this here info you (hopefully) see below from boo hooray dot com on page 21 of the Record Dreams catalogue.

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Peace out, brothers and sisters
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ggriffin



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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:37 pm

checking page 73... both records are $2000.

Not a bad price.
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sfstoogeling

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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:36 am

I contacted a record dealer who has a copy of the Japanese press - he said the songs were exactly the same as every other copy of Fun House.

I have heard the Japanese Down On The Street/1970 '45 and those are also the same as the US single edits.

Why would this guy make a vague suggestion? There are only 7 tracks, if some were different it would easy to specify which ones.

The only possible explanation is that maybe he hears something different in the pressing or mastering because foreign records are manufactured at different plants, made from tape copies, needle drops and so on. The guy I asked said he saw a thread about the Japanese LP on a youtube video but I was unable to find it, would like to see what that peanut gallery is talking about ...

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ggriffin



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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:17 pm

It is really weird. I would dismiss the whole thing - you don't make a complete alternate master of an album by mistake! then send it to Japan?!! - except the fellow behind boohooray.com is an extremely scholarly person and trusted vendor. Back out and explore the site at http://boohooray.com So I am at a bit of a loss.
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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:45 am

ggriffin wrote:
It is really weird. I would dismiss the whole thing - you don't make a complete alternate master of an album by mistake! then send it to Japan?!! - except the fellow behind boohooray.com is an extremely scholarly person and trusted vendor. Back out and explore the site at http://boohooray.com So I am at a bit of a loss.

I have already looked at the catalogs, the info there is dubious and I don't see how he is "scholarly" or "trusted." Impressive hustle - buying/selling archives to museums/universities, staging exhibits of ephemera,putting out expensive coffee table books. The book "Total Chaos" is just an interview with a lot of inaccurate info, it doesn't come close to telling the story of The Stooges. I don't see either of those guys as super fans or collectors - they acquired most of it from somebody else's collection in one huge lot.

An earlier catalog had 2 posters for cancelled gigs but he gave a description as if they happened. The items were still unsold when I read the catalogs - have either of those records sold at that price?
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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:57 am

With that said I'd be happy to be proven wrong - that there is a Japanese press of Fun House that plays alternate takes in addition to one that is the same (and nobody has noticed until a catalog which doesn't really give any details.)

When the Rhino box set came out people started to talk about the organ overdub on Down On The Street being released on a '45 - it never was.

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Billi Boi



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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:30 am

It does seem bizarre. 'Funhouse' must have a considerable following in Japan. Wouldn't somebody have noticed before now? I think Total Chaos is a bit of a puff piece too. A magazine interview in hardcovers.
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Billi Boi



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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:13 pm

I've been thinking - I don't think it's that farfetched. The Embassy version of Raw Power has a different mix of Search & Destroy, doesn't it?

At the end of the day, the fabled Jap Funhouse would simply be an interesting curio, what with the sessions box set. And I understand if some Stooge-o-philes have had their fill of variant mixes and so forth. My curiosity is piqued.

Kugelberg is in the archival business - therefore it is in his interest to be an accurate and trustworthy dude.

I don't know how it worked at record companies back in the days when information was conveyed by paddle steamer. Would someone at Elektra prepare a copy of the album master? Or would they send the master itself to Japan? It's not unthinkable there could be screw-ups in the tape library? I'm sure there are examples of this. Beatle obsessives must have many such tales.

Also, single releases in foreign territories sometimes featured 'boosted' mixes, but these wouldn't be confused with different takes unless the listener were not very observant.
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ggriffin



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PostSubject: Re: Japanese Funhouse   Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:57 pm

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