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PostSubject: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 17, 2008 5:54 pm

Did anyone on the forum attend Electric Circus 1971? At one of the shows Iggy sang "The Shadow Of Your Smile" and Iggy had them stop and re-start "I Got A Right". Was that the first or the second gig? I'm trying to assemble gig details. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 17, 2008 6:01 pm

I've PM'd you with info...
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 17, 2008 10:05 pm

Action House - Feb. 27 and 28, 1970.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 18, 2008 7:41 pm

The Action House gigs are missing from the list Jim and I compiled. Are you sure they happened?

21 Feb 1970 Ungano’s, New York, NY
22 Feb 1970 Ungano’s, New York, NY
23 Feb 1970 Ungano’s, New York, NY
24 Feb 1970 Ungano’s, New York, NY

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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 18, 2008 8:12 pm

Per,
Got a photocopy of it out of the Village Voice.
Also have numerous updates to list.
Most are minor, but a good find or two.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 18, 2008 8:39 pm

Great. Also have seen a few dates/gigs on the forum that we need to update the list with. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 18, 2008 11:17 pm

I was at 2 different Electric Circus shows. One Show had Bill playing guitar with Ron, and Iggy was wearing a black leather studded collar. The second was with James and Ron on guitar, and was the silver glitter/puke show.

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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 7:20 pm

They played in NY in the fall of 1970, w. Ron and Bill Cheatham on guitars:

23 Oct 1970: Electric Circus, New York, NY
31 Oct 1970: The Ritz Theatre, New York, NY [MC5 opened for The Stooges. Iggy cut The Stooges’ set short after being hit by eggs.]

Any recollections as to the set list at that Oct '70 Electric Circus gig would be great! I'm assuming they were already playing "I Got A Right" by then, possibly mixing a few Fun House tunes with newer mtrl. Any idea?

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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 9:34 pm

I always assumed I Got A Right era tunes came in after Steve MacKay left and James Williamson joined ie late November/early December. Now if someone could get a response from Matt Gimmick (he's not the most forthcoming chap) as to the exact date of his EP that has Rag & You Don't Want My Name on it, and comes from a Birmingham Palladium 1970 Stooges tape (so either 10 October or 12 December) that could clear all this up.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 10:50 pm

No, I don't think "Fresh Rag" or "You Don't Want My Name" were from 1970. I think the Palladium gig you're referring to is the one below:

24 Apr 1971: Palladium, Birmingham, MI

I'm also skeptical as to whether the 4 new songs that made up the 1971 set list (+ "I Got A Right" and the cover of "Who Do You Love?" and an occasional "Shadow of Your Smile") were JW/Iggy tunes, as JW does not remember having anything to do with the writing. That doesn't mean he wasn't involved, though.

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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 10:55 pm

Here\'s the back of the Detroit Renaissance EP where it says the Stooges tape is from 1970 not 71. Could be wrong though, without naming names I\'ve seen a lot of photographers who are out on their Stooges photo credits by a year or two.

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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 10:56 pm

Re. the '71 set list, the Stooges appears to have played the identical same 6 tunes at more or less every gig (from my reports and info): IGAR, YDWMN, FR, WDYL, and a tune that sounds a little like "Gimme Some Skin" which might be "Nigger Man" and the 6th (closing) tune which could be "Big Time Bum" although I'm not sure. They sometimes left out the 6th tune and Iggy occasionally sang a bit of "The Shadow Of Your Smile". I don't think any other tune was played, as I have details of the early and conclusive gigs of the tour. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 11:00 pm

OK, you might be right about those tunes actually being from late 1970. Needs to be verified. I think Iggy tried to come up w. a new set when they re-grouped in April 1971, but it's quite possible that some of the tunes were introduced towards the end of 1970. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 11:08 pm

pernil wrote:
OK, you might be right about those tunes actually being from late 1970. Needs to be verified. I think Iggy tried to come up w. a new set when they re-grouped in April 1971, but it's quite possible that some of the tunes were introduced towards the end of 1970. Per

I've tried, he's received my messages but has never replied.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 19, 2008 11:12 pm

Interesting.

It's hard to nail this for sure, as I don't think James knows exactly when he joined, and I don't think he was announced in Popped, but it was after 20 October, more mid November (he was definitely in by 13 Nov). Big Time Bum and I got A Right were in the set by 9 Nov so yes, I believe they were essentially solo Ig compositions.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 1:18 am

who originated "who do you love?"

btw i was checkin on itunes and a band called demons does a decent version of you dont want my name
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 4:04 am

Paul T.

Quick question. Nov. 9, 1970 where did the Stooges play? You say "I Got a Right" was in the set by then, but where did this come from and where did they play more importantly.
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 6:50 am

I think JW's first gig was Farmington, 5 Dec 1970. He pinned it down to a MI gig at a high school, so it might be this particular gig although I think we're lacking some late '70 gigs.

10 Oct 1970: Palladium, Birmingham, MI
23 Oct: Electric Circus, New York, NY
31 Oct: The Ritz Theatre, New York, NY
13 Nov: Eastown Theater, Detroit, MI
14 Nov: Eastown Theater, Detroit, MI
22 Nov: The Frut Palace, Detroit, MI
5 Dec: High School, Farmington, MI
12 Dec: Palladium, Birmingham, MI
? Dec: Monroe Community College, Rochester, NY
Note: 1970 gig also played at Gilligan’s, Buffalo, NY
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 6:53 am

Paul, are you sure JW was in by the time of the Eastown Theater gigs? Is that from Popped? I think Nathalie's info can be trusted a lot more than JW's memory of his first gigs. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 3:42 pm

mc wrote:
Here\'s the back of the Detroit Renaissance EP where it says the Stooges tape is from 1970 not 71. Could be wrong though, without naming names I\'ve seen a lot of photographers who are out on their Stooges photo credits by a year or two.

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Could somebody upload this? I'd love to hear it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 4:40 pm

"Who Do You Love?" is by Bo Diddley, I think. Per
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 5:35 pm

G, F#, E wrote:
mc wrote:
Here\'s the back of the Detroit Renaissance EP where it says the Stooges tape is from 1970 not 71. Could be wrong though, without naming names I\'ve seen a lot of photographers who are out on their Stooges photo credits by a year or two.

Could somebody upload this? I'd love to hear it Very Happy

Here's Rag:
rapidshare.com 05_-_Matt_Gimmick_-_Rag.mp3
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 20, 2008 6:32 pm

Thanks mc but as an AOL user (I'm getting a new server soon hopefully) I can't download from rapidshare. Still thanks anyway. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: EC '71   EC '71 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 21, 2008 7:39 pm

mc wrote:
Here's Rag:
rapidshare.com 05_-_Matt_Gimmick_-_Rag.mp3

Thanx a LOT!! Faster and a little different than the one from 1971 gig but still..rocks! Smile
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