The Group Still Exists, Im Not Telling You More Than That

Nadja wrote:

Dammit Ron, you just shouldn't have gone

Couldnt have said it better myself!

It seemed just for a second that everyone had forgotten that Ron was gone.

cb wrote:

Iggy has really good manners, doesn't he.
cb
http://iggypop.org

are you cynical cb with this remark?
Well.. Iggy keeps everybody HOT.. that's a fact.

Don't like it to be play around with as fan I just wanna KNOW!

The way I understand it -
There is studio material composed (and perhaps demo-ed)
by the Ashetons after The Weirdness. (God Is Dead..)
And Iggy and the remaining Stooges are currently in the process
of thinking how to make something out of it they can release...

?! sounds logical, doesn't it?

Bring it on ....... Imagine ...... James,Iggy and Scott and Mike on bass of course.

All those 'other' Stooge tunes we love from the 3rd album .

TeddyB1018 wrote:

Maybe Iggy will play guitar in the studio.

Yeah thats what i thought of. I'm sure Ig could strum sum dirty garage riffs. dunno what his solo chops would be like tho.
and live...?
that would just be/look wrong.

i'd rather have White than Jones. his work on 'white blood cells' is awesome. totally raw.

still i cant picture anyone filling ron's jack boots!

[quote="Nadja"]All power to Scott and Iggy and whoever else they choose to take on board but for me it's just not going to have the same level of interest without Ron and his guitar. In that sense, I don't really care who else they get in. But, of course, another part of me is curious to find out!/quote]

I agree with your sentiments Nadja. I would love to see Iggy, Scott and Mike working together in some format, but I also feel that any band without all 3 of Iggy, Ron and Scott in it is one that I will struggle to think of as The Stooges. Even... (and I do know this thought will make me very unpopular with a lot of people!)... even if it's JW! Maybe events will prove me wrong?!

I have the same idea as Outburst has. Not too long ago there it was said that ron and scot taped tons of music. I presume they are going to work with that.

TED wrote:

Bring it on ....... Imagine ...... James,Iggy and Scott and Mike on bass of course.

All those 'other' Stooge tunes we love from the 3rd album .

THIS. ^

Imagine is RIGHT. OMGZ think about the electricity at a show where James comes out on stage with his guitar strapped on for the first show next to Iggy again. The sight of that would bring the house down before he ever hit a lick. It has to be James. Nobody else can do it like James. I never saw any live footage of him playing if there is any. Just those glorious still shots from the 70's. His songs are fabulous. Maybe he's turning in his Sony retirement papers as we speak. He could take a sabatical from Sony. It could happen. He's brilliant. He's the one. It's his turn.

TeddyB1018 wrote:

Maybe Iggy will play guitar in the studio.

Yeah ... u k u l e l e ...

Rode Hard wrote:

TED wrote:

Bring it on ....... Imagine ...... James,Iggy and Scott and Mike on bass of course.

All those 'other' Stooge tunes we love from the 3rd album .

THIS. ^

Imagine is RIGHT. OMGZ think about the electricity at a show where James comes out on stage with his guitar strapped on for the first show next to Iggy again. The sight of that would bring the house down before he ever hit a lick. It has to be James. Nobody else can do it like James. I never saw any live footage of him playing if there is any. Just those glorious still shots from the 70's. His songs are fabulous. Maybe he's turning in his Sony retirement papers as we speak. He could take a sabatical from Sony. It could happen. He's brilliant. He's the one. It's his turn.

Sounds fantastic to me. I've always loved James's guitar playing, maybe even more than Ron's (maybe I prefer a bit more traditional R'n'R style playing or something) . I just read that MOJO article today where he said he would play Hall Of Fame, it didn't happen but it's a small step from there anyway...

That's right. EVERY James' song rocks SO hard. Every single one. The lyrics kill. My favorite is a double CD from the 90's called "Head On Iggy Pop and the Stooges." It's studio outtakes from 1972, rehersal tapes from 1973, and a Detroit radio broadcast, live at Latin Casino. The sound is shitty, but I don't care. Iggy yells at Scott on Pin Point Eyes, "Get on those drums RIGHT NOW Scotty. Go on git up, git over there!" haha poor Scott--I love him. Born in a Trailer, Wet My Bed, Rich Bitch, Not Right, I Got Nothing, Rubber Legs, Open Up and Bleed, Cock in My Pocket. Damn, everybody likes all those. The way Iggy sings it like he's in agony. *Le sigh* I just had a thought. Maybe Iggy doesn't wanna share the spotlight with James. Maybe he wants all the glory for hisself.

I'm fuckin' sick of second guessing, wishing and hopeing. Settin' myself up for a BIG let down when it doesn't happen. Or if Steve Jones of all people ends up being the super secret guitar player--oh brother. Just make it happen with James already.

It would be wonderful to hear 'Open Up And Bleed' live someday, but even if they would reform I doubt that would happen...

Rode Hard wrote:

Not Right

*cough*Not a Williamson song*cough*

This article says Jack White is starting a new band in addition to the two others he's already in. Sounds like he wouldn't have time for anything else.


Jack White Chases his Muse with New Band

By John Gerome AP writer

One is to play it safe and do whatever it takes to maintain your celebrity. The other is to follow your heart and pursue new ideas that come to you.

Obviously, White subscribes to the latter.

Already a member of The White Stripes and The Raconteurs, White unveiled his newest rock band, The Dead Weather, on Wednesday.

"The bands are all still happening. Everything is still occurring. This is a new one to add to the mix," said White, who wore his curly black hair askew and puffed on a cigar during a party at his Third Man Records label to announce the project.

During the party, White and the three other members of the group — Alison Mosshart of The Kills, Dean Fertita of Queens of the Stone Age and Jack Lawrence of The Greenhornes — previewed their new album "Horehound" due out in June.

The four of them sat on a couch as the music played, White closing his eyes and swaying his head, Mosshart chain smoking and mouthing the lyrics. Black and white footage taken inside a vinyl record pressing plant flickered on a white tile wall beside them.

Afterward, the musicians performed a handful of new songs for the 150 or so guests that included Sheryl Crow, Martina McBride and White's partner in The White Stripes, Meg White.

The music was bluesy, raw and aggressive, with Mosshart handling lead vocals and White playing drums. They played in a performance space in the same building as White's label offices, set in a gritty neighborhood of warehouses and adult businesses.

Mosshart and White wrote most of the album's 11 tracks, sometimes together, sometimes alone, sometimes with Fertita and Lawrence — both of whom also perform with White in The Raconteurs. The lone cover is a revved-up rendition of Bob Dylan's "New Pony."

"We didn't write that one," White cracked during the preview.

White, 33, is known for his electric guitar work, but he started out a drummer. He said the new project allows him to reconnect with the instrument.

"I produced from the drummer seat, and I really loved it so much because I haven't done it since I was a teenager, 15 years ago," he said. "I wanted to go back to my first love which was the drums. I did it on James Bond with Alicia (Alicia Keys, who collaborated with White for the theme to the James Bond film "Quantum of Solace"), and I wanted to do it with a band. I wanted to produce from the drummer's seat and see what happens."

The project emerged after a Raconteurs show, from a backstage conversation between White, Mosshart and Lawrence

"The idea was to do a 7-inch single and be done," White said. "But we started writing songs and something happened."

The band, whose name White describes as a patchwork of references to other musical groups, plans to tour this year. Mosshart and White insist it won't affect their other endeavors.

"Everything is going on at the exact same time," Mosshart said. "We all collectively decided that 2009 is the year of the daredevil. No days off. We're just going to work every single day no matter what we're doing."

wow, thanks for the article Rode Hard, i love the kills and white stripes, and alison mosshart and jack white, thisll be amazing, i heard about this a while ago, but didnt think anything, especailly an album, had happened


thanks!

The "extra" guitar bit in what Iggy said might refer to plans to maybe "flesh out" the demos recorded by the Ashetons with additional guitar parts (if needed). Iggy's remark about "different ways to approach vocals" also seems to indicate he is thinking about adding vocals to the Ashetons' tapes. Anyway I would love to hear post-Weirdness material!

Ron of course cannot be replaced, but if there is one guy who could TAKE OVER the guitar from Ron it certainly is Steve Jones. With his monolithic, huge sound, his attack, his fluent changes between chords and single string runs, his ability to create the architecture of a song as the only guitarist in a band and with his tone and the atmosphere he builds up he is the only guitarist who comes close to what Ron created. Just check the Sex Pistols' official 1996 live album "Filthy Lucre".

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The "extra" guitar bit in what Iggy said might refer to plans to maybe "flesh out" the demos recorded by the Ashetons with additional guitar parts (if needed).

never even thought about that, thats probly exactly what it was, maybe a typically iggy answer, kinda veiled response u'no

thats the best guess yet, luzern

ill have a listen to that filthy lucre album, im not too sure about the whole steve jones thing atm

Like Ron before the reunion Steve Jones never gets credit for what he created with his guitar playing in the Pistols. The focus usually rests on Lydon, the "scandals", "punk" etc. But Steve is a true master. On "Never Mind The Bollocks" he overdubbed tons of guitar tracks (and played bass) to create that huge and timeless sound, on "Filthy Lucre" he does it live and on stage.

I've warmed to the idea of James rejoining the Stooges.
Under the circumstances, it's a shame for James to rejoin because of Ron's passing.

Personally, I'd rather see the Stooges play all the James-era tracks, rather than have a stand-in for Ron, cus that ain't possible.

Whatever their decision, they won't please everybody.

Stooges without Ron is hard to imagine though...

My thoughts exactly.

Agreed Sheddy, if JW rejoins they should stick to his era songs. Same deal as when they reformed with Ron on guitar and didn't do the JW era songs.

His statement was well put and at least puts all the speculations into proportion.

cb
http://iggypop.org

Here is what Iggy said about new Stooges songs on the preliminaires
press conference:
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IggyPop - I have 5 songs of the Ashton brothers. Really unforgiven, unreconstructed shit.
IggyPop - I just had time to listen to the rough mixes and it was silent, I don't know if it was a joke from Ron or my player
IggyPop - I would like to make something with these tracks, I worked on two
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^ Not sure what the second comments mean...

Hope he gets something out of what Ron and Scott recorded, but I also hope they are released somehow in their original entirity.
An extra feature, perhaps.

5 songs fleshed out with some 3 or so filler-sounding songs a'la LA Blues, We will fall and Ann... Mindroom for one would fit the bill!
It'd be an LP for old times sake, and I'd be a happy listener.

Hope Jack White and Jones joins in to get the guitarparts up and running. And that the minutemans bass gets it's say in the mix!