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ElRoi

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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 12, 2010 10:11 pm

Funhouse wrote:
Really annoyed at the outrageous delivery charge to the UK, which bumps up the total cost to more than £80. I would have happily paid the Stirling equivalent of the US price - after all I've been doing it for years for US guitars - but this is way over the odds.

I hate to tell you this, but it's $4.99 for delivery here in the US.
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larry fine wrote:
krugersoldier wrote:
This thread made me laugh, remastering and cleaning up Metallic KO is like polishing a turd, its great BECAUSE it sounds like that. Do you want to hear the glass smashing in quadrophonic stereo? Metallic KO is the Stooges Stalingrad and in my opinion there greatest record, I vote for leaving it alone. You have to excuse me I also think the Soldier is Iggy's best solo record, these opinions have made me an outcast LOL Smile

No offense, but I couldn't disagree more. If a decent sounding version of this could be produced I'd be all over it. After hearing the endless bootlegs of this band over the past decades and finally getting to hear the quality recording on the Raw Power box; I was, at last, reminded of just how great this band was live. They were the greatest live band I ever saw and I'd love every opportunity to hear them again in the most pristine quality available.

Bring on the cleaned up tapes!!!

I have to agree with you larry. If nothing else a version that plays at the correct speed, but some sonic clean-up would be nice too.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 12, 2010 10:57 pm

ElRoi wrote:
Funhouse wrote:
Really annoyed at the outrageous delivery charge to the UK, which bumps up the total cost to more than £80. I would have happily paid the Stirling equivalent of the US price - after all I've been doing it for years for US guitars - but this is way over the odds.

I hate to tell you this, but it's $4.99 for delivery here in the US.





Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! My blood is starting to boil again.
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ElRoi wrote:
Funhouse wrote:
Really annoyed at the outrageous delivery charge to the UK, which bumps up the total cost to more than £80. I would have happily paid the Stirling equivalent of the US price - after all I've been doing it for years for US guitars - but this is way over the odds.

I hate to tell you this, but it's $4.99 for delivery here in the US.

PERKELE!!!!
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I did say that Michael Tipton has other tapes. Michael has plans but once again, that is his story to tell. I am hoping that there will be some news soon.

To reiterate what Larry said, it is a great time to be a Stooge fan. I am so looking forward to all the new releases. One will be the fan pack I am working on with Easy Action Records. I don't want to hijack this thread so I'll start another one about it.

I'd also like to mirror what Larry said about the Stooges ruining him. If you saw them once, you had to go back for more. For power and unpredictablity, nothing topped them, in my opinion, ever. You were never bored at a Stooge gig.

Larry, thanks for the new nickname. If I am the "queen" you are surely the "king" of knowledge for the LA era after the Stooges. I bow to you too, kind sir!
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 12:06 am

BTW, I must state that the version of I Got A Right that we included, in my opinion is awesome, and I don't think I've heard it anywhere else. As far as loading the package up with all the takes we had, ala Heavy Liquid, James and Iggy did not want to do that and I agreed, gets rather tedious listening to take after take. Choose the best and leave the rest where it belongs, unheard. We had a few versions of Gimme Some Skin, but none of them improved on the ones we've all heard. Doojiman, Hey Peter were included because they are revealing in that the Stooges had a bigger idea as to what Raw Power was going to be, those songs have no real home on Raw Power other than they were done at the time and show the band's somewhat less serious side. Doojiman has it's roots in their early stage performances, something very few, if any of you ever experienced, as does Asthma Attack, those are the Holy Grails of Stooge. Free from & freaky. Listen to Hey Peter again and see if you can't figure out what it is really about, when I first heard it, I knew it was semi-autobiographical. I included Sick Of You because it's a great song and we were able to improve on the sonic quality. Last thought on all of this here, we also were aiming for the Stooges fans that didn't buy all the bootlegs, over and over again. I know everyone is going to have their own opinion on what they would have done, I know I did for years, which is why I stepped up and did what I would have done, it's done and sounds better than ever and I am proud to have been allowed to be a part of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 12:07 am

Natalie

Tell Tipton to get in touch with me if he wants to get serious about those tapes.

Bob

And dear lady, I asked you to write me directly. I had a package for you...
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 12:23 am

Almost forgot, I did want to correct the long rumored stories about professional recorded shows by CBS at the time, since they opened for Blue Oyster Cult and those shows were being recorded by CBS, that is where the rumors started. A couple thoughts on that, the Stooges had already been dropped by the label at the time, so it's highly unlikely. Also, all of the Blue Oyster Cult recordings are in the vaults, and their manager at the time confirmed the Stooges were not recorded. The Ford Auditorium 1973 show was also rumored to have been recorded, but I asked Nite Bob years ago if he had tapes, and I would suspect that even if he was reluctant to tell me then, he would cough them up now.
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BackDoorMan@TheMindRoom wrote:
Almost forgot, I did want to correct the long rumored stories about professional recorded shows by CBS at the time, since they opened for Blue Oyster Cult and those shows were being recorded by CBS, that is where the rumors started. A couple thoughts on that, the Stooges had already been dropped by the label at the time, so it's highly unlikely. Also, all of the Blue Oyster Cult recordings are in the vaults, and their manager at the time confirmed the Stooges were not recorded. The Ford Auditorium 1973 show was also rumored to have been recorded, but I asked Nite Bob years ago if he had tapes, and I would suspect that even if he was reluctant to tell me then, he would cough them up now.

So, as far as you know, is the Georgia Peaches show the only professionally recorded performance?
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Paging Mr. Matheu!

The thread you were originally on is over here ...

https://stoogesforum.forumotion.com/jesus-loves-the-stooges-f1/raw-power-legacy-edition-uk-press-release-t2115-40.htm

... as is the subject you're talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 9:46 pm

I was pretty sure that I was responding to Teddy's comments, questions, etc. on this thread, apologies if everyone feels that I went off topic. As was the suggestion to Natalie.

And the Stooges thought they had tough audiences.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw Power Box Advance copies   Raw Power Box Advance copies - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 11:28 pm

BackDoorMan@TheMindRoom wrote:
I was pretty sure that I was responding to Teddy's comments, questions, etc. on this thread, apologies if everyone feels that I went off topic. As was the suggestion to Natalie.

And the Stooges thought they had tough audiences.

Robert, I didn't intend to extend any general negativity, and my comments here were directed to the faithful. As you said, the package is not only aimed at those who have bought every bootleg (though the deluxe package is likely to attract mostly those people). This is why I would have suggested including Gimme Some Skin and Scene of the Crime -- to put everything relevant in one place. I agree that including multiple takes would have been counter-productive. I did notice and believe I commented that I Got A Right has never sounded better. I'm Sick of You was a must, as it's one of the best things they ever recorded. My other main comment was that Head On sounded so superior here I wish there were more of the rehearsals. Perhaps on another release.

Congratulations on the whole project. You must be very proud.
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Robert,

I have one more question if you don't mind. Teddy has mentioned 'Head On' and I am wondering if there are any specific details about this track. Of all the rehearsal takes available, why was this particular one chosen? Is it an unreleased version or has it appeared before?

Thanks.
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BackDoorMan@TheMindRoom wrote:
Almost forgot, I did want to correct the long rumored stories about professional recorded shows by CBS at the time, since they opened for Blue Oyster Cult and those shows were being recorded by CBS, that is where the rumors started. A couple thoughts on that, the Stooges had already been dropped by the label at the time, so it's highly unlikely. Also, all of the Blue Oyster Cult recordings are in the vaults, and their manager at the time confirmed the Stooges were not recorded. The Ford Auditorium 1973 show was also rumored to have been recorded, but I asked Nite Bob years ago if he had tapes, and I would suspect that even if he was reluctant to tell me then, he would cough them up now.

I do not have any unreleased tapes. I helped Michael Tipton set up his tape deck at the October 1973 Michigan Palace shows.

I got to hear The Stooges rehearse without Mike Watt, with Scott Thurston playing bass. It just does not get better than that!

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What's wrong with Mike Watt? Mike Watt has been a member of the Stooges much longer than Thurston
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Lucas wrote:
What's wrong with Mike Watt? Mike Watt has been a member of the Stooges much longer than Thurston

Nothing wrong with Mike Watt. Scott was on all the 1973 shows I was at. I consider Scott Thurston to be very important in Stooge history. For me, it was 5 of the 70's Stooges rehearsing.

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Bob,

Amen! I felt exactly the same when I saw Scotty T at the jam.

Natalie
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Natalie wrote:
I did say that Michael Tipton has other tapes. Michael has plans but once again, that is his story to tell. I am hoping that there will be some news soon.

To reiterate what Larry said, it is a great time to be a Stooge fan. I am so looking forward to all the new releases. One will be the fan pack I am working on with Easy Action Records. I don't want to hijack this thread so I'll start another one about it.

??? who sings that horrible song "anticipation'?
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Anticipation = Carly Simon!

I didn't mean to come off as defensive either Teddy, blogging, emails, et. al. always have that possible problem of misreading the tone.

I had that thought originally as well, about including those tracks to have them complete in one spot, even thought of calling it London 1972. Again, please correct me if I am wrong, but that version of I Got A Right isn't anywhere else, is it? It's a great version. Bruce Dickinson choose that version of Head On, we both felt it was greatly overlooked and thought we'd bring some more attention to it by including here. I believe it was recorded at CBS Studios in NYC in preparation for the Max's shows, and the band was dropped by Columbia shortly after. It may have been on Heavy Liquid, or going back further to Rubber Legs. The source on this was Ron Asheton. Agreed, I'm Sick Of You is amazing, cool thing is the band will be playing it live this summer.

It was very cool that Scott Thurston was there last night, good man.
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I don't know whether any of the myriad released mixes of I Got A Right on Bomp and Easy Action is the same as this one on the Legacy reissue (can't be bothered to compare), but I do know for certain it's never sounded better. The thing about Head On is that the same recording has been released many times, but never sounded nearly this good. It might just be that Ron's source tape was much better than the tape used for Rubber Legs and then copied all those times for other releases.

Scott T sounded great, as did all of them.
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I can't be certain where the source of "Head On" came from but I can state with certainty "Head On" was performed several times at the Columbia rehearsals.

I can also state with certainty that it sounded great every time.
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Natalie wrote:
I can't be certain where the source of "Head On" came from but I can state with certainty "Head On" was performed several times at the Columbia rehearsals.

I can also state with certainty that it sounded great every time.

Although I haven't heard this yet - I wish they had done the same for Open Up & Bleed.
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They did perform "Open Up and Bleed" at the rehearsals. Many, many times, as a matter of fact.

Perhaps we will hear it someday. One can keep that dream alive!
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"Also Sprach Scott Thurston" Smile

His guitar playing on I Got A Right on TV EYE LIVE 1977 is for me the greatest playing EVER in rock and up there with Pete Cosey, Hendrix and Keith Richards. Comical that the Stooges had so many guitar masters that he plays keyboards, what a band!!!

A lot of the masterful playing on New Values is also by Scott.T and not by James as I thought for many years.
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