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Iguanas wrote:
Nadja wrote:
Nadja wrote:
always good to get a sidelight on Ron''s 'other' projects!

actually, what about SCOTT's other projects? Sonic's Rendezvous Band?
(never heard of any others)

SCOTT ASHETON:

THE PSYCHEDELIC STOOGES / THE STOOGES 1967/1971
IGGY AND THE STOOGES 1972/1974
SONIC'S RENDEZVOUS BAND 1975/1981
THE SCOTT MORGAN BAND 1981-1991
GUITAR ARMY - BENEFIT FOR DETROIT-AREA VIETNAM VETERANS 1985
WITH WAYNE KRAMER, JOEY RAMONE , STEVE BAISE AND SONNY VINCENT 1997
PURE FILTH 1997
DODGE MAIN 1997
THE STOOGES PROJECT / CODENAME STOOGES 2002
THE STOOGES 2003-2008

I think that Scott never played in Dark Carnival. Maybe I'm wrong.

Thanks for the list, and I'm pretty sure Scott was in Dark Carnival. Smile And he was in Iggy's backing band for a while wasn't he?
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Shakes wrote:
Nadja wrote:
thanks iguanas and dynamite boogie

The Stooges Project - sounds interesting

the stooges project were the handful of shows done in 2002 that included the asheton bros, watt, and j. mascis.
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oh right, didn't know that was what those 2002 shows were called! thanks

and thanks soldier!
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G, F#, E wrote:


Thanks for the list, and I'm pretty sure Scott was in Dark Carnival. Smile And he was in Iggy's backing band for a while wasn't he?

LJ Steele was Dark Carnival drummer. You can see on my site information about band (-> Ron Asheton).
Iggy's backing band was Sonic's Rendezvous Band - Fred 'Sonic' Smith, Scott Asheton and Gary Rasmussen + Scott Thurston (tour 1978).
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Ok thanks for clearing that up. Wikipedia has wrong information AGAIN obviously Smile
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pure filth is the title of an album rather than the name of a band. scott played on this with sonny vincent. the band was called rat race choir. scott played with dark carnival as a guest drummer . as per my previous post he also drummed for detroit band the farleys.
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Yeah he plays on one of the Dark Carnival albums in the 'Hot Box'. He also plays on both the Scots Pirates albums (1993 & 1995). And also the Rendezvous Bands Getting There album (1999).

Nigel
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dynamite boogie wrote:
pure filth is the title of an album rather than the name of a band. scott played on this with sonny vincent. the band was called rat race choir.

This is info from my tape:

PURE FILTH
UPSTAIRS AT NICKS, PHILLY, USA
SEPTEMBER 7, 1997
MASTER AUDIENCE RECORDING
BAND:
Sonny Vincent - vocals, guitar
Steve Baise - bass
Scott "Rock Action" Asheton - drums

But ... you are right. Thanks for the correction.


dtklamf wrote:
Yeah he plays on one of the Dark Carnival albums in the 'Hot Box'. He also plays on both the Scots Pirates albums (1993 & 1995). And also the Rendezvous Bands Getting There album (1999).

Nigel

Scott plays on both the Scots Pirates studio albums, but on my live recordings (1995), Johnny "Arizona" Eppinga plays the drums.

Does someone knows more information about Dark Carnival with Scott (including dates)?
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On the Hot Box he plays on disc 5 which is from Haloween 1995, that's all it says not very helpful sleeve notes.

Nigel
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Just remembered Scott also plays on Deniz Tek's 'Take it to the vertical' album (1992).

Nigel.
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dtklamf wrote:
Just remembered Scott also plays on Deniz Tek's 'Take it to the vertical' album (1992).

Nigel.

Deniz Tek - Guitar, Lead Vocals
Chris Masuak - Guitar, Keyboards, Mazaphonic Tremolator
Phil "Dust" Peterson - Bass
Scott "Rock Action" Asheton - Drums, Percussion
Angie Pepper - Vocals
Grady Gaines - Tenor Sax
Donald C. Arthur - Moral Support and Tequila

Great band and great album. Smile
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Scott didn't play w/ Dark Carnival. (edit: I guess he made a few appearances). I wish Niagra hadn't either. The occasional vocals that Ron handled himself were way better. She looked great rolling around up there, but then started 'singing'. Her husband, 'The Colonel' used to come out to harangue the crowds.

My favourite solo Ron is still the New Race album. The rest of it was marred by poor sidemen IMO. Dave Gilberts' vocals on the New Order stuff is especially bothersome. (His later band 'The Rockets' had a Detroit-area hit w/ a cover of Fleetwood Mac's 'Oh Well').

The Stooges Project was big fun. I saw them at St. Andrews in Detroit and they were so loud and distorted that I did'nt even notice J. Mascis' or his lethargic vocals. If anything, Ron toned it down for the Stooges reunion.
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in niagara's book 'beyond the pale' there is a picture of scott playing drums with dark carnival but there is no date or other info. he is also listed as playing with dark carnival on the revenge records website. http://www.limbos.org/indies/revenge-lp.htm
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THANKS WYLDE RATTZ RULE
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I have the true story in a series on NO on my page gang go read it.

http:machinnegunthompson.com
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I love Declaration Of War, what a kick ass record, especially the first side, and 1975, which is also done well on Victim Of Circumstance. I thought it was interesting to hear the first four tracks from DOW in clearer sound on VOC. I like the DOW versions (sourced from Ron's tape copy) much more, maybe Ron should have patented his tape deck as a mastering tool.
I wish they could have gone on with the first singer (someone drew the Bon Scott comparison, I can see that). New Order really did sound dangerous, interesting to compare that approach to Kill City.
I really like Bored by Destroy All Monsters, too. Does anyone know if their Days Of Wonder ep is availble in any form?
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Easy Action are working on a New Order release of some sort at the moment.

from http://www.easyaction.co.uk/news
We are also hoping to piece together a decent The New Order ( Michigan version not Manchester ) project once we get all, the tapes in .
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PostSubject: Re: The New Order   The New Order - Page 4 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 19, 2009 6:35 pm

Donald wrote:
Easy Action are working on a New Order release of some sort at the moment.

from http://www.easyaction.co.uk/news
We are also hoping to piece together a decent The New Order ( Michigan version not Manchester ) project once we get all, the tapes in .

sounds interesting!
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Carlton and I are working on a new set of New Order Music for release soon. Thanks for asking! I'll post it when we get closer.

MGT

Hey any of you girls and guys in the Detroit/ Ann Arbor area I am playing with Scott Morgan, Deniz Tek and Hiawatha Bailey at the Blind Pig Dec 18! Come on out and kick out some big JAMS with me!

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"Declaration Of War" LP/CD previously posted by Soldier is a 1987 reissue of the "original" 1977 LP released on Fun! Records label. The original LP doesn't include "1975" but sounds slightly better than the reissue (especially on the 1976 tracks: less hiss & distortion, deeper bass), I mean it was probably made from a 5th generation tape, rather than a 6th generation for the reissue…
You can download it here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/368928140/The_New_Order.zip

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fantastic tracks Wink
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Trying to get a box set together soon with video to go with it too
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Sounds Great, Dennis!
You mean unreleased material?
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well the video is obviously the songs are out there but need to be digitized
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BOX SET IS COMING SOON I WROTE SIDEWINDER AND IF YOU LISTEN TO THE SECOND VERSION I ACTUALLY SANG IT...
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