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homesickjameswilliamson Modern Guy, Modern Guy
Number of posts : 3439 Age : 35 Location : Stoogeland Registration date : 2007-07-07
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:23 pm | |
| - Quote :
I can be pleased for the new Stooges but I can't pretend to be excited about them. i feel the same way, which is strange because i love all the stages of the stooges music, equally probably, and i thought that i wasnt getting feverishly excited because of Rons passing but i think it is as Angusyd has said; - Quote :
- To me the first reunion sounded like a little "miracle" - like, they were back to get what they deserved - while this one looks more like business. Or, well not exactly business like "money money money", but business like "we can't stop it". Less spontaneous.
i think that is why, its not very spontaneous, its like, "well, we'll give it ago'' like a quickie reunion or something, and they know if it doesnt work out they've all got money etc to rest on, and iggy has preliminaires to rest on (not hte album itself, but future albums in that vein) and james is retired anyway whereas in 2003, Ron hadnt been doing much, at least nothing that he deserved, same with Scott, and Iggy desperately needed something and who could've guessed the stooges would get back together, and as danny fields has said better than they were before, so in that sense it was a miracle, and even more so that they'd continue and generate the money but also the critical praise and new fans (like me) and the general consensus that they were the best live act ever i am excited, dont get me wrong, and if they come anywhere near me, or play somewhere i can get to, i'll definitely see them, ill support this band to the end and i think thats the point, its a band, its our band, this is how they're going to go forward and thats the best thing | |
| | | Loose1969 Free & Freaky
Number of posts : 1565 Age : 66 Location : Callin' from the Fun House.... Registration date : 2007-07-18
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:42 pm | |
| - Nadja wrote:
- It's not really a case of giving them a chance, I just hope I can work up my passion again. Although for me it'll never hit the same levels without Ron's guitar around. Oh, well.
I understand, believe me. You know I always preferred the Ron era of the band, mostly because of his wild guitarwork. I just figure that the new configuration is as close as we'll ever get, so why not enjoy it? I certainly don't expect anyone to just forget about Ron. I can't. Just sayin', might as well enjoy what we CAN get. | |
| | | Nadja
Number of posts : 2617 Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:43 pm | |
| - homesickjameswilliamson wrote:
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i think that is why, its not very spontaneous, its like, "well, we'll give it ago'' like a quickie reunion or something, and they know if it doesnt work out they've all got money etc to rest on, and iggy has preliminaires to rest on (not hte album itself, but future albums in that vein) and james is retired anyway
what about scott then, if this didn't work out, musically I mean, (obviously he's got a life outside of the stooges in other ways) Actually, I can't see how it wouldn't work out if it's just a 'business' kind of thing, they just have to rustle up a tour or two, they've got plenty of material from the past and they're still creative enough to come up with more. | |
| | | homesickjameswilliamson Modern Guy, Modern Guy
Number of posts : 3439 Age : 35 Location : Stoogeland Registration date : 2007-07-07
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:48 pm | |
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what about scott then, if this didn't work out, musically I mean musically i dont know, although hes a great drummer and great drummers are always sought after, so he'll have no problem, i was just saying that if this doesnt work out, im sure he's built up some money from the past five years to at least relax for a while | |
| | | Angusyd van Hyman
Number of posts : 264 Age : 32 Registration date : 2008-02-12
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:54 pm | |
| - Quote :
- its a band, its our band
That's why I think I'll go see them if I can. Glad to see it expressed. | |
| | | G, F#, E Real O Mind
Number of posts : 2307 Age : 31 Location : Scotland Registration date : 2008-05-06
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:05 am | |
| Iggy although I respect him is a very egotistical and most often selfish musician. Iggy knows the "Iggy And The Stooges" name sells hence why Scott, Steve and Williamson are on board but he wants to play solo stuff too, why? Because the masses will recognise it and he´ll make more money, he doesn´t need it but wants it.
It´s very greedy, they´re all rich now. Williamson and Scott are just happy to play whatever in front of people so they´ll go along with Iggy and play what he wants. They could play in front of crowds in small venues where everyone would know the words to the obscure demos. Hell, festival crowds were singing along to "I Got A Right" last year.
I have no problem with them making plenty of money, I have no problem Williamson playing all his stuff, I do have a problem with the Ron material but I can get over that. My big problem with them playing solo Iggy stuff.
For me this is worse than The Stooges breaking up. My favourite band is now degraded to a backing band. That´s the key word, "band", "The Stooges" are now an Iggy vehicle, not a group thing. They´re watering down. And personally I detest that. They aren´t a band anymore. | |
| | | TeddyB1018
Number of posts : 104 Registration date : 2008-07-06
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:53 am | |
| James was not specific. Perhaps the solo Iggy stuff will be restricted to Kill City and New Values material. Or maybe the new Stooges will play Preliminaries songs! Mackey and James have got the chops for it. In defense of Iggy, it's also a bit weird for him to play only with the Stooges and completely ignore a three decade long solo oeuvre.
Personally, I was thrilled for the reunion in 2003 (even went to Coachella). It's an awful thing that Ron's gone, but nothing can be done about that, and so I'm thrilled for the opportunity to see the band with James for the first time since the Whisky in '73. I think it's going to be great. As for it being a backing band, the truth is that the non-aficianados have considered it a backing band since about 1970. They were sometimes billed as Iggy and the Stooges before James even joined. | |
| | | sway
Number of posts : 249 Age : 40 Location : macon, GA Registration date : 2009-08-06
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:12 am | |
| ive always preferred ron's playing as well, just that poetic/chaotic/minimal approach....but at the same time raw power is something all to its own, and the older i get, the more i listen to it...the more i appreciate it. it really is a special album, and james is a special player. im glad to hear hes doing something again.
with that said...i think funhouse is the most kickass "rock" (even though i think it transcends rock on so many levels) album EVER recorded. i miss you, ron. | |
| | | Loose1969 Free & Freaky
Number of posts : 1565 Age : 66 Location : Callin' from the Fun House.... Registration date : 2007-07-18
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:44 am | |
| Playing Iggy solo is a bit bizarre, I must admit. In my humble opinion, the tunes ought to be limited to the Stooges stuff plus Kill City. Again, my opinion only... | |
| | | Nadja
Number of posts : 2617 Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:15 pm | |
| about Iggy solo, well it's such a new situation, I guess they feel they can throw in anything they like.
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| | | Nadja
Number of posts : 2617 Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:29 pm | |
| - sway wrote:
- ive always preferred ron's playing as well, just that poetic/chaotic/minimal approach.
sway, 'poetic' is absolutely the right word!!! | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:43 pm | |
| They might also play "Louie Louie" "I never thought it'd come to this, baby" The song will work for concerts, folks know it. It would be funny if they even made up new lyrics for it - you can pack almost any content in that simple 3-chord song.. |
| | | dorianmode
Number of posts : 104 Location : UK Registration date : 2008-12-21
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:22 pm | |
| Like some others, I have decidedly mixed feelings on this 'new reunion'. Yes, I'm happy for the Stooges to continue in some form, but it's the Stooges without Ron for the very first time ever, so the very concept feels weird. | |
| | | Rode Hard Rich Bitch
Number of posts : 307 Location : St. Louis Registration date : 2007-08-16
| Subject: Re: New James Williamson Interview Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:49 pm | |
| They have to play Dog. If I was seeing Iggy for the first time on stage I'd be REAL disappointed if he didn't sing that. He sang it at every show I've ever been to. | |
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