Number of posts : 22 Registration date : 2009-07-02
Subject: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:19 am
just been watching james play live with the careless hearts on youtube, and james, starting with raw power is smokin. they even do an acoustic "no sense of crime " from kill city . also cock in my pocket , amazing .
popmansam
Number of posts : 242 Registration date : 2007-12-06
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:06 am
Dont get no better than that!
soldier
Number of posts : 512 Registration date : 2007-06-17
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:38 am
fantastic !!!!
JW82 Six String Terrorist
Number of posts : 666 Location : Olympus Mons, Mars Registration date : 2008-02-10
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:42 pm
I cannot describe the feeling, when I hear James' playing, being back for good..
Gimme some skin
Number of posts : 349 Age : 40 Location : Belgium Registration date : 2007-03-10
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:04 pm
Thanks a mil for taping this stuff!
Ironic that for the first time in 35 years a decent sound quality version of 'Cock in my Pocket' is recorded
Hectorlovesthestooges
Number of posts : 464 Age : 34 Location : Canary Islands (Spain) Registration date : 2009-07-12
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:20 pm
Can't wait to see Iggy & The Stooges back!!!!
MJG196
Number of posts : 719 Location : Burke, VA Registration date : 2007-02-26
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:12 pm
Is this French?!
soldier wrote:
sheddy
Number of posts : 150 Age : 50 Location : Tokyo Japan Registration date : 2008-01-01
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:50 pm
Thanks to whoever recorded it.
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Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:21 pm
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studioguy
Number of posts : 840 Location : Saint Paul, MN Registration date : 2009-05-27
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:40 pm
It's amazing how great it sounds!! Even the best versions of Iggy's solo act bands didn't even come close to Williamson's sound and style.
I can't wait to hear him with Iggy, Scott and Mike. And also the pro shot full video that will be posted.
TED A funhouse boy will steal your heart away
Number of posts : 822 Location : Camden Town London UK Registration date : 2007-06-24
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:45 am
I'm going to the London shows for sure ..... who wants to join me ?
Aku
Number of posts : 235 Registration date : 2009-02-24
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 am
studioguy wrote:
It's amazing how great it sounds!! Even the best versions of Iggy's solo act bands didn't even come close to Williamson's sound.
- I´m really happy to see and hear these videos, but...I`m still waiting to hear James Williamson , I mean you can`t really hear James on these youtube videos, i dont mean to be an asshole or anything, but there´s two guitar players and the one you don't really hear is James Williamson. So I'm still waiting for that pro shot video, maybe it will have a "pro sound" too...However, It´s great to see James, and Yes - the band sounds great on these videos, Careless Hearts did a great job and I´m thankfull, but I'm still waiting to hear James Williamson's guitar...You hardly hear that on these first video clips.
Funhousehideaway#2
Number of posts : 170 Registration date : 2008-03-28
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:45 am
Wow.
studioguy
Number of posts : 840 Location : Saint Paul, MN Registration date : 2009-05-27
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:16 am
Here's some more clips. Different source with bad sound compared to the first ones.
Number of posts : 104 Registration date : 2008-07-06
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:34 am
I hear James enough to hear he sounds like James Williamson. On the first clips his lead guitar isn't loud enough (maybe his old school Vox wasn't cutting through in the small club) but his rhythm playing is manic-great. Sounds good on the acoustic too. On the later clips, his guitar on Gimme Danger is overpoweringly loud, so perhaps it had to do with where the filmers were standing. It was a small club after all. Bottom line is he's still got the fear!
larry fine
Number of posts : 234 Registration date : 2009-01-15
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:26 am
I don't mean to piss on anyone's parade but the truth is that James is hitting a lot of clams (bum notes). He is obviously (and understandably) out of practice and I'm certain he'd be the first to admit that not touring until 2010 is a good idea. Playing guitar is not like riding a bike - you can forget how to do it. I've been playing for 37 years and I can swear that a lot of it is muscle memory and a huge chunk of it is chops. You can hear that he is attempting to play the right riff/solo/chord sequence but he's hitting the wrong spot on the neck or his fingers are on the wrong strings or he's just off the time a bit. It only happens occasionally, but far too much for an actual Stooges show. Mostly it sounds great and the chops will come back to him with practice, I'm sure. And I'm looking forward to witnessing the progress. If he plays again with the Careless Hearts I'd try and get up north to see it.
BTW - there are other examples that I can't quote right now, but for an example of what I'm talking about, check out the solo in Gimme Danger beginning about 1:50 in.
TeddyB1018
Number of posts : 104 Registration date : 2008-07-06
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:53 am
Yes Larry, this is true and especially noticable on Gimme Danger. What comes through is the attitude of his playing. The knack will return with experience. The guy hasn't been onstage for 35 years!
studioguy
Number of posts : 840 Location : Saint Paul, MN Registration date : 2009-05-27
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:02 am
TeddyB1018 wrote:
Yes Larry, this is true and especially noticable on Gimme Danger. What comes through is the attitude of his playing. The knack will return with experience. The guy hasn't been onstage for 35 years!
Very true.
I went 12 years between gigs and the first one was ok, but not great and I didn't have anything to live up to like he does. I can only imagine the stress.
Natalie Dancing Stooge Queen
Number of posts : 668 Location : Stoogeland Registration date : 2009-06-11
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:35 am
Thanks guys for getting real. I thought it was just me and I didn't want to start anything. I listened to all the clips a few times and I was shaking my head. I liked the attitude and I liked the energy but to my ears it just was not happening for me. I heard James play live about 30 times and I know what his potential is. I know he will get there but he has a few good miles to run yet.
Larry, Studio guy and Teddy, thanks for the reality check. I feel much better now.
studioguy
Number of posts : 840 Location : Saint Paul, MN Registration date : 2009-05-27
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:41 am
Natalie wrote:
Thanks guys for getting real. I thought it was just me and I didn't want to start anything. I listened to all the clips a few times and I was shaking my head. I liked the attitude and I liked the energy but to my ears it just was not happening for me. I heard James play live about 30 times and I know what his potential is. I know he will get there but he has a few good miles to run yet.
Larry, Studio guy and Teddy, thanks for the reality check. I feel much better now.
Sometimes all the rehearsal goes out the window due to nerves. I thought his rhythm playing was really great. His lead work sounded nervous and a little stiff. That will all work itself out. His tone was spot on at least to me. I'm sure playing with Scott will get him into shape pretty fast.
I thought Ron sounded tentative at first in 2003 also, but that all got worked out very quickly.
hank67
Number of posts : 29 Registration date : 2009-07-24
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:07 pm
PRACTISE IS ESSENTIAL, HE WILL BE READY FOR 2010
dereksee
Number of posts : 66 Location : bay area, California Registration date : 2008-12-09
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:14 pm
to all of you "critics". Why don't you post a video of yourself playing onstage at a gig. I'm very curious to hear you play, hear the songs you've written and see your reaction on a crowd.
There always has to be someone chiming in saying that there were mistakes, etc. It would be very easy to point out mistakes at any gigs (including any of the other Stooges reunion shows.) Really, WHO CARES other than musicians that are trying to make someone look bad.
James got up there, and literally SLAYED the audience. The room was full of ear to ear grins and pandemonium. yet it's very easy for a paper tiger on a computer who very well may never have even PLAYED a gig to try to cut him down.
This is JAMES WILLIAMSON, the man who wrote the songs on Raw Power. And you are WHO????
larry fine
Number of posts : 234 Registration date : 2009-01-15
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:56 pm
dereksee wrote:
to all of you "critics". Why don't you post a video of yourself playing onstage at a gig.
Well, since I'm the one who first brought this up I guess I'll respond. I thought I made it very clear that he is simply out of practice and will need time to get back up to speed. I also mentioned that the mistakes were few. I'm also pretty sure (and said so in my original post) that James knows better than anyone that he needs more time and more practice and that it is not like riding a bike. It takes time.
Sure, I was being critical, but there is an attitude on this site that everything attempted by anyone who was ever a Stooge is perfect. I only said that he needs more time. Do you think he is ready to tour with The Stooges right now? There is certainly a difference between playing with your band in a small club and playing some huge festival or somewhere where there will be press waiting to rip you apart for any perceived mistake.
I also said that if you guys do another gig together that I would try to make the trip from L.A. to see it. I never said he shouldn't do it or would never be ready - just that time is his friend. James is one of my favorite guitarists of all time and I can't wait to see this version of The Stooges. Let's just make sure the rust is knocked off and everyone is up to speed. I meant no harm or offense to anyone (least of all James) and I will state again that I'll bet James would agree with my assessment.
I understand you are being protective and I get that. I probably would be too. But let's not put blinders on and ignore what is right in front of us.
Unfortunately I do not have any video of me on stage to post, but I have played guitar for 37 years. I'm not just spouting off with no knowledge of how this works. PM me an address and I'll send you a CD of my stuff.
larry fine
Number of posts : 234 Registration date : 2009-01-15
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:04 pm
dereksee wrote:
This is JAMES WILLIAMSON, the man who wrote the songs on Raw Power. And you are WHO????
Furthermore, I went back and read all of the posts after mine regarding James' playing on the various youTube clips and they all seem very respectful. They are critical but hopeful and forward looking and excited about what is to come. Your response might be just a little over the top.
studioguy
Number of posts : 840 Location : Saint Paul, MN Registration date : 2009-05-27
Subject: Re: james williamson up on youtube now live sat night sept 5 Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:05 pm
larry fine wrote:
dereksee wrote:
This is JAMES WILLIAMSON, the man who wrote the songs on Raw Power. And you are WHO????
Furthermore, I went back and read all of the posts after mine regarding James' playing on the various youTube clips and they all seem very respectful. They are critical but hopeful and forward looking and excited about what is to come. Your response might be just a little over the top.
I hope I didn't sound critical, it was 3am when I posted and my filters were turned off by then, James is my favorite guitar player of all time and the only one of my top 10 I've never seen live before (video or in person) and I'm 52, I would have been happy just seeing him tune up, those clips made my year so far.
That being said I've also been a guitar player for over 30 years and I know rust and nerves (from my own playing), and I also know it will go away. If I was playing my first show 35 years I'm not sure I could hold a pick let alone play a solo or remember anything once I got on stage and I don't have any reputation to live up to.
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