STOOGES Albums TOP 5

1- wild love and detroit 1972 sessions
2- live 1971
3-soldier field chicago 1970
4-raw power (bowie mix)
5- london 1972

Nadja wrote:

I think the first album works all the better for any seeming imperfections...it has this positively sludgy quality at times, which just sucks me in all the more. Like on 'Not Right' for instance, with its muddy, murky, grinding, squalling shuddering 'solo'...the very ESSENCE of sound....Even Funhouse, dare I say it, sounds almost too clean in comparison. But, just to make it quite clear, I'm saying absolutely NOTHING against Funhouse. It's inferior ONLY to the first album, for me, and not by much.

Spot on.

Nadja wrote:

G, F#, E wrote:

Have you heard the original mix by Cale?! Its dreadful!

Yup. But he did alright producing the 'final' version. there's absolutely no way it could have been bettered.

He didn't mix the final version. It was Iggy and someone else, I forget their name.

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Using a sarcastic smiley eh Nadja? Well then. I know where I stand now.

cale did the sleigh bells and maybe the piano? i think so

dunno about other songs, he cut off dance of romance didnt he? otherwise i dunno what he did with te album, cept the original mixes

homesickjameswilliamson wrote:

cale did the sleigh bells and maybe the piano? i think so

Your right!

I think I'm one of the few people that really like them on it.

G, F#, E wrote:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Using a sarcastic smiley eh Nadja? Well then. I know where I stand now.

I haven't a clue what you're on about.
Also who played the viola? That was Cale I suppose
I have a copy of the record which says 'produced by John Cale'.

Nadja wrote:

G, F#, E wrote:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Using a sarcastic smiley eh Nadja? Well then. I know where I stand now.

I haven't a clue what you're on about.
Also who played the viola? That was Cale I suppose
I have a copy of the record which says 'produced by John Cale'.

And it WAS produced by Cale. But Iggy & Elektra guy Jac Holzman remixed it, the band wasn't happy with the original Cale mixes with that weak guitar sound.

End of controversy.

exactly Loose

cale did have a lot to do with it, producing it, but iggy and jac holzman remixed - i thought there was something, like people didnt believe iggy remixed it, or something like that?

Nadja wrote:

G, F#, E wrote:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Using a sarcastic smiley eh Nadja? Well then. I know where I stand now.

I haven't a clue what you're on about.
Also who played the viola? That was Cale I suppose
I have a copy of the record which says 'produced by John Cale'.

Thanks Loose1969 you explained it far better

Cale was definetly the viola player it says so in the credits on the back.

And I was making fun of the fact of where you said:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

It came across as quite snipey but it probably wasn't ment that way.

Loose1969 wrote:

And it WAS produced by Cale. But Iggy & Elektra guy Jac Holzman remixed it, the band wasn't happy with the original Cale mixes with that weak guitar sound.

End of controversy.

Thanks Loose1969 you explained it far better than I tried to On another topic, I saw Jac Holzman interviewed in a documentary about the California music scene recently. The documentary was full of awful music but it was good to see Jac.

Nadja wrote:

G, F#, E wrote:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

Cale had SOMEthing to do with the making of that record, that's all I know.

Using a sarcastic smiley eh Nadja? Well then. I know where I stand now.

I haven't a clue what you're on about.
Also who played the viola? That was Cale I suppose
I have a copy of the record which says 'produced by John Cale'.

Cale was definetly the viola player it says so in the credits on the back.

And I was making fun of the fact of where you said:

Nadja wrote:

well whatever, GF#E.

It came across as quite snipey but it probably wasn't meant that way.

Cales first album mix is in the wrong pitch(or speed). Must be the tape play speed. It's easy to raise the pitch w/ eiditing though, so it's no big deal.

Cale liked experimenting A LOT so perhaps that was intentional JLTS. Just a thought

Till now 17 Stooges fans posted their lists. Here is the top5 again.

BigTimeBum, can you specify yr list to the rules please? i can't include it now.

Everybody can post their list by regarding the following rules:

Choose out of official releases and box sets.
No boots - No DvD's
Also semi official releases r possible but only with Stooges songs on it
so no releases mixed with Iggy songs!!


---- Album --------------- NO.1 - NO.2 -- NO.3 -- NO.4 -- NO.5 ----------------> votes

1. Raw Power -------------- 7 ----- 2 ------ 4 ------ 5 ------ 1 -------------------> 19
2. Funhouse --------------- 8 ------ 3 ------ 0 ----- 2 ------ 1 -------------------> 14
3. The Stooges ------------ 2 ------ 7 ------ 4 ----- 2 ------ 2 -------------------> 17
4. Metallic KO ------------- 0 ------ 1 ------ 2 ------ 5 ----- 2 --------------------> 10
5. The Weirdness --------- 0 ------ 0 ------ 2 ------ 0 ----- 4 ---------------------> 6

Heavy Liquid -------------- 0 ----- 0 ------ 1 ------- 3 ----- 0 -------------------> 4
Studio Sessions ----------- 0 ----- 0 ------ 0 ------ 0 ------ 3 -------------------> 3
Funhouse Sessions ------- 1 ----- 1 ------ 0 ------- 0 ----- 0 -------------------> 2
Live '71 & Rarities -------- 0 ----- 0 ------ 0 ------- 0 ----- 2 -------------------> 2
California Bleeding -------- 0 ----- 1 ------ 0 ------- 0 ----- 0 -------------------> 1
Per's '71/'72 PRe-RP alb. - 0 ----- 1 ------ 0 ------- 0 ----- 0 -------------------> 1
Telluric Chaos ------------- 0 ------ 0 ------ 1 ------- 0 ------ 0 -------------------> 1
Metallic KO2 --------------- 0 ------ 0 ------ 1 ------- 0 ------ 0 -------------------> 1
Per's '73/'74 post RP alb. - 0 ------ 0 ------ 1 ------ 0 ------ 0 -------------------> 1
Penetration ---------------- 0 ------ 0 ------ 1 ------ 0 ------ 0 -------------------> 1
Year of the Iguana -------- 0 ------ 0 ------ 0 ------ 0 ------ 1 -------------------> 1

raw power in first position

1. Funhouse
2. Stooges
3. Raw Power (Even tho S&D's my fav song!)
4. Penetration
5. Weirdness (it pains me to even list it, such a disappointment..)


Yeah Cale's mix is all Hand claps..bad! Tho the long version of Ann is way better. It doesnt have vocal reverb/echo thing like normal version.

soldier wrote:

raw power in first position

why is that a surprise? it sure as heck isn't my favourite Stooges album tho!

waow, didnt think raw power'd be no.1, but there you go

its a great record, im surprised people can even judge one over the other, their all my number one, as weird as that sounds, lol ,ubt theyre like a tripartite No. 1 for me

good to know, adn good to see weirdness in the top 5, its a great album

thanks again for compiling this list zin zin!

I think I didn't give my list here, so here it is:

Metallic KO
Funhouse
Telluric chaos
The Stooges
The Weirdness

1. The Stooges
2. Funhouse
3. Telluric Chaos
4. Escaped Maniacs (CD)
5. Raw Power (original mix)

homesickjameswilliamson wrote:

waow, didnt think raw power'd be no.1, but there you go

its a great record, im surprised people can even judge one over the other, their all my number one, !

don't understand why everyone's so surprised about RP at no. 1. and as for judging, we're all different aren't we? For me RP is such a different set-up to the first two albums that I can't help but react to it in another way entirely.

Fun House
Raw Power (Bowie mix)
Stooges
Head On
Metallic KO

The Stooges
Fun House
Raw Power (Bowie mix)
Weirdness

and I haven't heard any others.

woow nice! lot of lists.. work to do.. so give me a sec.
just gonna join raw power bowie + iggy mix together
like in the last posted overview.